opensource linux concept
As Narayana Mahraj said in one of the interviews, go for linux like opensource like community. It should be free and open to anyone. And should be the source of shelter for anyone.
It should not be like rigid ISKCON
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We require proper preaching centres
hare krishna dandavats all glories to srila gurudeva and gauranga gurudevas sanga do need a good temple in the uk i have been on the street and give gurudevas books out and people have asked me were is your temple? so some devotees with loads of money should be mercyful and help because it would please gurudeva he did want a temple in the uk if isskcon can open temples we should work together other ...more »
Add your comment for Idea: We require proper preaching centreshare krishna dandavats all glories to srila gurudeva and gauranga gurudevas sanga do need a good temple in the uk i have been on the street and give gurudevas books out and people have asked me were is your temple? so some devotees with loads of money should be mercyful and help because it would please gurudeva he did want a temple in the uk if isskcon can open temples we should work together other wise the preaching will be slow all the best radharaman das wales uk
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Proof the Jews come from Vedic India.
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Afection.
I think that any idea should be acted with love and afection and that me and many are not seeing in our sanga now. We see more quarrel than afection, and its the contrary of that Gurudev told to do. Very dificult. But if we re-think about all these things, we can adjust again and decide things togueter with afection to all, if we dont think again about, sure we will be finished, and time dont get back again. So for me ...more »
Add your comment for Idea: Afection.I think that any idea should be acted with love and afection and that me and many are not seeing in our sanga now. We see more quarrel than afection, and its the contrary of that Gurudev told to do. Very dificult. But if we re-think about all these things, we can adjust again and decide things togueter with afection to all, if we dont think again about, sure we will be finished, and time dont get back again. So for me its the main thing, decide and associate on afection plataform, respect all ideas, and not simply put this web site here, not considering them and decide all alone or only some ideas, who is more near to the 'controllers'.
the ideas have been posted here is very nice, sanyassis may stay longer on each place, and not just 3 days and bye bye, never send even email asking a simple question "how r u?" etc..
all othersd ideas have been posted here oh, very nice all ....
Jay Gurudev!!!
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the managment people
Add your comment for Idea: the managment peoplei would like to know who dose what in our sanga in terms of managment
i would also like to know why each person who dose what ever they do explane why there needed to do whay they do
this way when i or any body needs advice
they can know who to ask
hare krishna
also i hered of transperent finances
can i please be enlightened on this
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Books and Parakrams require manpower and money
Manpower [and women-power]and money are required to ensure that both book printing and distribution , Parakrams and preaching festivals go on into the long term future .Srila Gurudeva has expressed a concern that they continue. The manpower and money come from a spiritually well nourished worldwide congregation .At the moment ,while Srila Gurudeva is with us He is nourishing us directly and through His empowered Sannyassis ...more »
Add your comment for Idea: Books and Parakrams require manpower and moneyManpower [and women-power]and money are required to ensure that both book printing and distribution , Parakrams and preaching festivals go on into the long term future .Srila Gurudeva has expressed a concern that they continue.
The manpower and money come from a spiritually well nourished worldwide congregation .At the moment ,while Srila Gurudeva is with us He is nourishing us directly and through His empowered Sannyassis and preachers .
If a time does come when Srila Gurudeva is no longer externally manifest in this world the beautiful temples and deities He has established will help to nourish us.Showing by His own example Srila Gurudeva has manifested beautiful temples and dieties in India , as have our previous acharias .
But without us manifesting beautiful temples and dietes around the western world [as Gurudeva has instructed] we risk our western congregations enthusiasm and generosity diminishing .A lot of manpower and money comes from outside India and is a renewable resource, but only if maintained , nourished and cultivated .
Whatever else we may say , we can see from the example of ISKcon that their extensive world wide infrastructure of beautiful temples and dieties , schools , farming communities etc has brought them a continual supply of new devotee manpower and money .
At the moment as a sanga we are building very large and beautiful Mandirs in the Dharm , renovating all the kunds,pastime places,temples in the Dhama ,assisting various other Vaisnava missions and Maths ,renting wonderful facilities for festivals around the world and of course publishing and printing and distributing soooo many wonderful books etc etc .It is my humble suggestion , that to ensure all those wonderful sevas continue to increase and flourish, some resources also be invested back into our resource base . Without sufficient infrastructure in the west , few new devotees will join , old ones will return to Iskcon and the in flow of manpower and money will dwindle .
Without sufficient money and young , new enthusiastic and energetic bhaktas, Parakrams will be compromised ,as will book production and distribution .Learning from the successes and mistakes of the past ,of ourselves and others ,we must strive to facilitate the spiritual practices of our congregation around the world .Gurudeva and His near and dear are like the head and heart etc, but without the legs and feet being in good shape our sangas activities will be sub-prime .
Good infrastructure world wide = good inflow of men and money
Radhe Radhe !!
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why keep going building temples?
Add your comment for Idea: why keep going building temples?why keep going building temples,
are there not already enough around the world? I think should better concentrate to make effective change awareness to world leaders!
with all respectfully.
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Book Distribution
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The sooner the Narayan Maharaj Organization does this the better. I will be the first one to start distributing books His Grace Narayan Maharaj authored. I am already involved with the Benedition Moon and am distributing those books.
Hare Krishna -- Your servant -- hari hari nara hari
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We need more Guru Seva and Nama Seva
It is a fundamental principle that fallen conditioned souls [ like me ] cannot make spiritual advancement on their own .So help is coming in the form of Srila Gurudeva, his near and dear associates and now his new society . First point the society is meant for helping devotees make spiritual advancement .To make progress as we often hear we need only to do two things . Nama seva and Vaisnava[Guru ]seva .So logically ...more »
2 comments for Idea: We need more Guru Seva and Nama SevaIt is a fundamental principle that fallen conditioned souls [ like me ] cannot make spiritual advancement on their own .So help is coming in the form of Srila Gurudeva, his near and dear associates and now his new society .
First point the society is meant for helping devotees make spiritual advancement .To make progress as we often hear we need only to do two things . Nama seva and Vaisnava[Guru ]seva .So logically the society should exist to facilitate those two things .
It is true that a small proportion of devottees , on their own initiative , without external help , do manage to organize regular Harinama Sankirtan and full time meaningful direct service to srila Gurudeva and other pure vaisnavas .The reality is though that a large proportion of our societies members do not do substantial amounts of congregational chanting of the Holy Names and do not render substantial amounts of Guru or Vaisnava seva on a daily basis .I believe it is because it is not easily available and if it were ,substantially more devotees would do much more kirtan and seva .Like in the case of ISKcon .Some of our devotees comment they were happier in Iskcon as they had engagement and kirtan daily .It was organised for them and all they had to do was engage . However on their own they dont seem to be able to organize it them selves .That is why traditionally the Guru had His ashram[s] where nama seva and Guruseva were always going on and available .
So personally I am not so concerned what organisational model we have as long as it delivers a substantial improvement in the level of availability of nama seva and Vaisnava seva .But at the moment the new model is not looking good .Its still entirely up to the individuals to organize those two fundamental cornerstones on their own as the "organisation "is not inclined to .
So my humble suggestion is those devotees appointed by Gurudeva to organize a society have been appointed because the do possess organisational abilities, as opposed to the general mass of devotees who generally do not . So rather than passing the buck to the congregation who obviously arn't getting it together they should do the needful .Why should the only Kiran and service be available at ISKcon in most areas?
I do believe most of our members are sincere and do want to perform harinama sankirtan and serve Guru, Takurji , preach and distribute books etc They used to formally when they were in ISKcon ,and many new members of ISKcon do so now as would our new members if the seva was available .Most devotees are sincere and will do seva if its available . Most however lack the vision and spontaneity to create seva opportunities on their own .Therefore Srila Gurudeva has requested the expert managers , the visionaries and the self motivated raganuga bhaktas to organize our society .
I cant relate to the idea that the "organisation" will "advise" the seva teams .Anyone that can get it together to do some meaningfull seva in our anti institutional environment clearly doesn't need advice.They should be giving the advice to those that cant find anything to do .
It is a great opportunity for those with vision ,wealth and organisational abilities to provide the general congregation with generous opportunities for Harinama sankirtan seva and menial Guruseva to help spread the Sankirtan Movement of Mahaprabhu. Krishna is watching us to see what we do with what He has given us .Better to err on the side of caution and over-utilize our capacity than under-utilize .
Radhe Radhe !! [the lowly mathuranatha das australia]
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OFFICIAL LOGO, IMAGE OR SHIELD OF IPBYS
1 comment for Idea: OFFICIAL LOGO, IMAGE OR SHIELD OF IPBYSthe idea is to make a call to all our sanga of ipbys in a kind of international contest to choose the new image of IPBYS, there can be a panel of 3 of our editors and the best 5 logos can be presented to Srila Gurudeva to choose the winner,........ I feel this must be done sooooon. :P
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effective change awareness to world leaders!
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are there not already enough around the world? I think should better concentrate to make effective change awareness to world leaders!
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free, gratis websites and blogs
Add your comment for Idea: free, gratis websites and blogsI have ideas but I need money, I have make investment to spread the mesage of te bhagavad gita, much flyers inspired by gurudeva. Websites are free and I write an publish on it in Dutch blogspot and wordpress example free sites http//www.bhaktamagazijn.blogspot.com and http://www.krishnabewustzijn.wordpress.com give me a comment on it
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join "My Sanga Idea"
Add your comment for Idea: join "My Sanga Idea"i suggest more devotees join this forum and vote,comment and add your thoughts and feelings.
Please don't be shy...we will all help change this world...together!
70 members in about a month...come on we can do better than that,please show your support and join up.
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Important Information regarding the society should stay highly visible on opening page
Hare Krsna, I recently read the article by Sriman Radhakanta prabhu, "Do we want an international society?" Being engaged in the Houston temple project I find this article is EXTREMELLY helpful in our situation and very relevant to all Srila Gurudeva's devotees. One suggestion is: such information which is applicable to all members of the society, should remain highly visable on the front page longer than the news-feeds ...more »
1 comment for Idea: Important Information regarding the society should stay highly visible on opening pageHare Krsna, I recently read the article by Sriman Radhakanta prabhu, "Do we want an international society?" Being engaged in the Houston temple project I find this article is EXTREMELLY helpful in our situation and very relevant to all Srila Gurudeva's devotees. One suggestion is: such information which is applicable to all members of the society, should remain highly visable on the front page longer than the news-feeds allow. A few days in the spotlight, for those who are not regular visitors to the site, are sick, or don't thoroughly go through the archives, could mean that some may miss articles that directly affect them and their service. Since the website was created for the unification of the members of the society, and through that unification to greater impact the world, I suggest that articles pertaining to the essential functioning and developmental issues of the international society should remain highly visable on the opening page of the website for more time.
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Compassion and Faith
Gaura Hari bol. Devotees who are actively engaged in temple administration ( Temple, House, Preaching Center etc..) of any size can help themselves and others by finding a way for all who seek a place of refuge, regardless of the visitors time commitment, a priceless experience to serve, learn, and love. Sacrifice, patience, and communication and a cease-less pursuit to love and educate all devotees and non-devotees. ...more »
1 comment for Idea: Compassion and FaithGaura Hari bol. Devotees who are actively engaged in temple administration ( Temple, House, Preaching Center etc..) of any size can help themselves and others by finding a way for all who seek a place of refuge, regardless of the visitors time commitment, a priceless experience to serve, learn, and love. Sacrifice, patience, and communication and a cease-less pursuit to love and educate all devotees and non-devotees. Damodara dasa
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Nandalals Ideologies and methods
1 comment for Idea: Nandalals Ideologies and methodsforget elections, intentions, rejections, protections, just chant and be happy 24 hours a day, and be free of the chains of karmi consciousness.
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How to most effectively build the perfect, ideal society?
I suggest you to as soon as possible organize the first World-Congress of Multidimensional Education under the guidance of His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja, His Holiness Srila Radhanatha Swami Maharaja, and Stephen R. Covey. Because building the ideal perfect society is done most effectively by establishing an educational system, which helps all devotees, but especially devotees in responsible ...more »
Add your comment for Idea: How to most effectively build the perfect, ideal society?I suggest you to as soon as possible organize the first World-Congress of Multidimensional Education under the guidance of His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Goswami Maharaja, His Holiness Srila Radhanatha Swami Maharaja, and Stephen R. Covey.
Because building the ideal perfect society is done most effectively by establishing an educational system, which helps all devotees, but especially devotees in responsible positions to develop the mode of goodness in all the three material dimensions of human existence.
We need a multidimensionally oriented educational system.
Human existence means one has to be educated in the gross physical dimension, in the intellectual mental dimension, in the social dimension and -of course most important-in the spiritual dimension.
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I suggest you to as soon as possible organize the first World Congress of Multidimensional Education under the guidance of His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja, His Holiness Srila Radhanatha Swami Maharaja and Stephen R. Covey. Because building the ideal perfect society is done most effectively by establishing an educational system in our society, which helps all devotees, but especially devotees ...more »
Add your comment for Idea: How to build the ideal perfect society most effectively?I suggest you to as soon as possible organize the first World Congress of Multidimensional Education under the guidance of His Divine Grace Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja, His Holiness Srila Radhanatha Swami Maharaja and Stephen R. Covey.
Because building the ideal perfect society is done most effectively by establishing an educational system in our society, which helps all devotees, but especially devotees in responsible influential positions, to develop the mode of goodness in all three material dimensions of human existence. We need a multidimensionally oriented educational system. Human existence means one has to be educated in the gross physical dimension, in the intellectual, mental dimension, in the social dimension, and of course most important in the spiritual dimension.
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"Pop art book" for the street!
Kc is a very visual philosopy, as we know. With all the beautifull paintings and images we get to look upon and veiw everyday...reminding us of Sri Krsna and his devotees. "A Picture Speaks a Thousand Words" i propose a book printed about the size of "Way of Love"...consisting of easy to understand philosophy...straight and to the point...then a series of good quality (glossy) pull out/peel off stickers...consisting ...more »
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"A Picture Speaks a Thousand Words"
i propose a book printed about the size of "Way of Love"...consisting of easy to understand philosophy...straight and to the point...then a series of good quality (glossy) pull out/peel off stickers...consisting of Mahamantra/Sri Jaganathe/Pancha tattva/Radha Krishna/slokas/changing bodies...or whatever devotees feel appropiate...each sticker could have an explanation of the image...and maybe a few words asking stickers to be placed respectfully.
These stickers will find their way to many peoples gaze...fridges/school books/dashboards...so many other places!
Some will object and say that they will be "illeagly" placed...i say so what!...is not a picture
that hints of our real nature essential to each jivas progress.
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madan
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Do we really have a Society??
Society is defined online as... ... "The institutions and culture of a distinct self-perpetuating group"... we need to define our culture.. and it needs to be monitored and maintained by rules or policies or we ARE NOT A SOCIETY BY DEFINITION. A society ALWAYS has standard rules that apply ACROSS THE BOARD that are to be followed for it to operate smoothly. As a corollary, if one doesn't want to follow the ...more »
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... "The institutions and culture of a distinct self-perpetuating group"...
we need to define our culture.. and it needs to be monitored and maintained by rules or policies or we ARE NOT A SOCIETY BY DEFINITION.
A society ALWAYS has standard rules that apply ACROSS THE BOARD that are to be followed for it to operate smoothly. As a corollary, if one doesn't want to follow the rules in his society, then in general that "society" will then ask them that maybe they should go elsewhere.
For example.... It seems at the moment LA Temple acts completely independently. EVERYONE knows what a Temple is for (the deities, and a place for those in saffron to take shelter and serve the deities and Guru). However this is not the case. I was told by LA temple "sorry" today, "we are too full!" I know there are hardly ANY saffrons in the entire USA, so my question is.. is that really a temple? What is going on there??? Where am I supposed to go?
I feel as a "society" we should have policies, rules etc in place that govern important things like our temples etc... if there is no standardization, if there are no policies or rules.. how can we be called a "society"...
Honestly we are such a hotch potch!!
Please, Please, Please... let's finally get this together after 14 years!!!
Dandavats
Sacinandana Dasa
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Gopinath das
2 comments for Idea: Gopinath dasI suggest to use the name BHAKTI GROUP for the membership in our sanga ..
This as our spiritual ID whenever the occasion rises to introduce ourselves and can be our
own as initiated devotees in Ipbys.
We register and Letterhead IPBYS for all papers and docs.lfemembers are also made in IPBYS and can may have the exclusive BHAKTI GROUP ID as lifemember.
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The perfect ,ideal society -what would it be like ??
I f we could have any type or model society we wanted what would we have ? If we were not constrained by financial , physical,time , visa and immigration etc limitations and we could create our own dream society, any way and anywhere we wanted, how would it be ?? How would the devotees live, what would they do? Dont feel shy ,let your deep inner inspiration come bubbling out and post your dream of an ideal life situation/society ...more »
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If we were not constrained by financial , physical,time , visa and immigration etc limitations and we could create our own dream society, any way and anywhere we wanted, how would it be ?? How would the devotees live, what would they do?
Dont feel shy ,let your deep inner inspiration come bubbling out and post your dream of an ideal life situation/society here .
Jai Sri Radhe-Sham
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"They will scatter here and there; there will be no control."-Srila Gurudeva.
Laaks and Laaks of Sashtang Dandavat Pranams in the dust at the lotus feet of all the past , present , and future Vaisnavas. All Glories to Sri Sri Guru-Gouranga-Gandavika- Giridhari-Radha-Vinoda- bihariji ki jaya ! Srila Gurudeva ki jaya ! We just saw the new video of Srila Gurudeva speaking to Yasaodanadana Prabhu about the new society quote:-" Yasodanadana dasa: You asked me to set up the Society. Why the Society, ...more »
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We just saw the new video of Srila Gurudeva speaking to Yasaodanadana Prabhu about the new society
quote:-" Yasodanadana dasa: You asked me to set up the Society. Why the Society, Gurudeva?
Srila Narayana Gosvami Maharaja: If there is no society, everyone will be separated. They will scatter here and there; there will be no control."
A controversial point no doubt , but open strait-forward communication should help .
"missunderstanding is like poison" :-Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Sarasvati Thakur Prabhupada
Every society gives some benefits to its members [or they wont stay] and in return those members have some duties and obligations to the society [or the society will reject or discipline them].To derive those benefits we willingly come under the control of that society in respect to fulfilling our debt of duty and seva [in return for the things the society does for us ].
So as I understand Gurudeva the society is there to benefit us and control us so we are not separated [ from sat sanga] and scatter here and there [doing asat sanga] .
Srila Gurudeva has repeatedly ordered the Bhakti Trust and Sanyassis -- make a society to benefit the devotees who voluntarily come under its control .
Not just them, but generally, Srila Gurudeva has requested /ordered us to do for him like what Swami Maharajas disciples did for Prabupada .Many times - so that order has come to many many of us directly.
So those that take up the order [without ulterior motives]will be empowered to do it .And those that are taking it to heart and doing the needful , we should not be envious of them ,but rather joyfully assist them .
Our independence is whether to make a society or not ,or take shelter of Srila Gurudevas Society or not .Whether we want to be controlled [by Guru and Krishna } or remain independent .
Ha Gouranga !! Gouranga Nitai!! [mathuranatha das australia]
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Shares for sale at Garden Ashram
Hare Krishna. Dear devotees, here at the Garden ashram, or Sri Giriraja Gaudiya Math, in Murwillumbah, Australia. We are searching for some sweet devotees who would like to come and live with us at our simple ashram. We have one or two shares for sale. There are 2 self contained units, which could be bought as your part of your share. Shares are $108,000 AUD and aditional for a unit. You can come and build something ...more »
Add your comment for Idea: Shares for sale at Garden AshramHare Krishna. Dear devotees, here at the Garden ashram, or Sri Giriraja Gaudiya Math, in Murwillumbah, Australia. We are searching for some sweet devotees who would like to come and live with us at our simple ashram. We have one or two shares for sale. There are 2 self contained units, which could be bought as your part of your share. Shares are $108,000 AUD and aditional for a unit. You can come and build something if you prefer. It's a sweet property on a river and roughly on 40 acres. Gurudeva told us to quickly sort the morgage. Jaya Gurudeva. Hare Krishna
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Traveling Sankirtan Roadshow
Traveling Sankirtan...this has been done in various ways by different devotees since Srila Prabhupada introduced KC to the west. if devotees could have decent vans,suitable for living in comfortably....they could travel form town to town...namahatta to namahatta...temple to temple...festival to festival. each van being equiped with...good sound system, books,mridanga/katrtels and facility to cook alot of prassadam and ...more »
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Traveling Sankirtan...this has been done in various ways by different devotees since Srila Prabhupada introduced KC to the west.
if devotees could have decent vans,suitable for living in comfortably....they could travel form town to town...namahatta to namahatta...temple to temple...festival to festival.
each van being equiped with...good sound system, books,mridanga/katrtels and facility to cook alot of prassadam and some enthusiastic devotees.
instant mini festivals could manifest very quickly with a setup like this...devotees could travel throughout europe and the americas.
yes these programs have existed before...but these days we have instant communication...so all devotees and friends could assemble together when the "sankirtan roadshow" hits your town...i'm saving for my van now...the rest is down to the flute player
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madan
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